This is an editorial I found in the CNA, Creston Iowa. From a Mr. Rose and decided to comment on it. His letter is in Italics and my comments follow his:
Mr. ffdgsdhg, no one in the government is advocating a communist-style state, and even if they were, we could always vote them out of office. Have you not read history? Do you think the people of free countries ever believed they would be taken over by the dictator. Hitler was a man for the people and came to power buy virtue of the people. It’s ok if an Arthur Miller writes The Crucible and wants to liken it to the hunt for Communists in this country. Everybody stands up and applauds. Academics hold it up as a classic. We wouldn’t be holding it up as a classic if they had taken over. We would have pointed at Miller and screamed,“you Fool”! People, experts, patriots etc are screaming at us to beware the Socialist movement that we are embracing, while multitudes of Sycophants that watch the evening news and think they are getting the truth bury their heads in the proverbial sand and say, “ah shucks, they wouldn’t do that”.
I happen to believe that the health care system needs reform, and I believe that people are more important than corporate profits. And for that I am told that I should go and live in a communist country? What their frustration is saying is that If you can’t see what’s happening and are blindly following a philosophy that has never been successful wherever it has been tried, then maybe you ought to consider going there and trying out the communism. Let us know if you still think it is ok.
Mr. sfshhhd refers to being fed up with the huge national debt, and certainly it is something that all of us must be very concerned with. But please understand that the debt (which is an accumulation of yearly budget deficits) has been out of control for years, and that as recently as the year 2000, we actually had an annual budget surplus. Yes, you are correct. Given to you by a republican majority and agreed to by a triangulating Bill Clinton.
Huge tax cuts combined with 9-11, a $120 billion-a-year war in Iraq, which the taxpayer was not asked to pay for, and the current economic recession, which may be one of the worst in our history, have combined to balloon annual deficits and therefore the debt. If you would like to go back and look at the increases in revenue generated by the tax cuts you will soon see that your statement that the tax cuts exacerbated the deficit is a ludicrous statement. I appreciate the mention of 9-11 as an additional piece of the puzzle for a recession. The reality is that is the tax cuts and conservative financial policy resulted in continued growth. The real culprit of the mess we were in during the final days of George Bush were the result of Democrats saying that all was well in the financial sector and letting the socialistic policies concerning mortgages caused massive amounts of money to be lent to people who should have still been living in an apartment, for they had not the financial prowess or foundation to be homeowners. So, we fork out 700 billion dollars-700, 000,000,000- That’s a heck of a lot of redistribution of wealth.
Even without the Bush and Obama stimulus efforts, our deficits and debt would have increased because of recession related revenue shortfalls. It was a foolish thing to do, print money to pay bills. The ensuing hyperinflation will be the result of first Bush and then Obama’s failure to follow sound economic principles, taking money from the rich to give to the poor does not abundant jobs create.
Every state in the United States is constitutionally required to balance their annual budgets, and every one of them is in real trouble because when people lose their jobs, and businesses aren’t profitable, they don’t pay taxes. Exactly, Therefore why would you think that increasing the tax burden on businesses would help the economy?
You can argue all day about the effectiveness of the “bailouts” and the stimulus, but don’t try and blame the national debt on them. Do you not realize that Obama’s proposed programs have created more national debt in the last 9 months than all presidents combined including the president progressives love to hate George Bush. Why then can we not say that he did it?
Where were all of the debt protesters when the Bush administration was ringing up record deficits? Screaming loud and long. The reason there wasn’t the mainstream media outrage is because Bush was doing exactly what the progressives wanted him to do. Conservatives were screaming. No, no, no!!!
I would like to point out though that recent reports are that the taxpayer has realized a 17 percent return on the money which they loaned to large banking institutions. And the powers that be actually want to send it back to the bailout system instead of giving it back to us or putting it on the debt. You thought they were going to give it back to you? You are more foolish than I thought.
Stimulus packages and bailouts which result in a stronger economy (and therefore more tax revenue) will not transform us into a communist state. YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE MARXIST PRAXIS DO YOU? If your house were on fire, I think that you would be very upset if the fire department refused to put it out because they had exceeded their water budget for the month. NONSEQUITER, DON’T YOU THINK. WE SHOULD HAVE LET THEM FAIL, like businesses fail when they have a business model that is unsuccessful?
Mr. fgdffhgd laments the “government controls” which have been “rammed down our throats.” Specifically, what intrusion on your freedom has resulted from the government’s role in the economy? What is a sign of a Socialist, Marxist, or Communist government? dingdingding- the businesses are run by the government. 61% of GM is government owned)and told what to do by the government(Obama made GM ceo Quit). Is, or is this not exactly what has been done. Has he, or has he not set up a czar to oversee corporate salaries? (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/11/business/11pay.html) And how is a stimulus package passed by majority vote of the House and 60 percent of the Senate an example of ramming something down our throat?
Remember that we had an election last year, and the people that you think are abusing your rights represent the people. Representing the people should never mean responding to bullies from either side But it’s ok to call President Bush a Liar and a MONKEY)who shout you down and call names which have no relationship to the issues at hand. It should mean doing what they think is right and living with the consequences at the next election. MR Rose is absolutely right. We have no one to blame for these democrats being in office but ourselves. Well, that’s if you don’t count the 400,000 fraudulent voter registrations of Acorn and the fiasco with the comic Al Frankin Let’s not forget the thousands that stayed home because of the ridiculous candidate the republicans put forth in turncoat John McCain. We let the best candidates cancel each other out and ended up with a noncandidate. But who’s complaining I love the idea of eventually not needing to work because all my troubles will be taken away. Thank you comrade. Can I get a kumbaya everyone?
Where you are wrong, is the idea that they should vote their conscience and wait for the next election. Sorry, they are our representatives and should listen to us instead of calling town hall-meeting-attenders names like communists and racist, which Nancy Pelosi did.
For what it is worth, I feel that health care reform has been badly handled by the president and Democrats. There is no one bill; so therefore, people are confused and vulnerable to misinformation. There is a bill. There are several. The one that is most oft quoted is house bill 3200. None of the bills on the table spare us from the government option.
Like it or not President Obama did, in fact, misspeak. Maybe he did not know, or worse, maybe he meant to deceive us when he said that there is no way the illegals will get health care. Did you believe him John?
You see, In committee democrats killed two amendments that would have guaranteed that illegals wouldn’t get healthcare. How many of you actually think President Obama didn’t know that? Do I see a hand anywhere?
Do you actually believe Mr. Rose that a socialist with a socialist agenda who has socialist acquaintances and socialists in his advisory circle doesn’t want to have a government option? Where do you get your rose colored glasses? They are seizing the crisis to implement as much of the Marxist Praxis as possible, while we are afraid for ourselves, because of the dire straits of the economy that they created. FDR had a world war; Obama has the financial crisis.
Someone needs to step up to the plate and tell us what this legislation will do and how we will pay for it, and then we can make up our minds based on powers of reason, rather than political exploitation, rumor and irrational fear of communism or any other rhetorical boogie man. Do you really want to know, because the info is out there? You have to go read it and use your critical thinking skills to see what they are doing. Read their plan in the writings of Saul Alinskey and more history of the world and you will be able to see the writing on the wall, that is, if you really want to know.
